Impact Goal Rush
Impact Goal Rush

Episode 10 · 1 year ago

Kyron Gosse - The single biggest question to create your big impact


Kyron Gosse is a changemaker, social entrepreneur and founder of a pioneer in the tiny house movement. Kyron talks about the number one mistake most entrepreneurs make and the lessons learned in his journey inspiring more people to unleash their awesomeness and freedom through real estate and property.

Key highlights:

  1. Lesson from a Kenyan bee farmer on a B1G1 study trip
  2. Why tiny house and the future of coworking and coliving
  3. Number one mistake impact entrepreneurs make

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So welcome back to another episode of the IMPACT Goal Rush podcast. This is the podcast for impact entrepreneurs. If you're new to this podcast, this podcast aims to amplify the voices of impact entrepreneurs, addressing the United Nations global goals, Ak the sustainable development goals. Listening to fellow impact entrepreneurs on their journey in this new goal rush of making a bigger impact. Get inspired to learn how to entrepreneurship. You can grow your impact, make the world a better place, leave a legacy and leave a more meaningful life. I'm your host windtime. I'm the founder of podcast publishing. So if you've missed the last episode, we had JP dowmand of impact leaders, talk about why businesses at all levels of becoming impact driven and why finance and the capital markets are now seeing an unprecedented move and shift towards sustainable and impact investing. In this episode I'll be speaking to a mentor and a good friend of my, incurring Ghus, who is leading the tiny house movement, and he's going to be sharing a super interesting story. So he's also part of the Bon Gu and community of impact entrepreneurs and he finds himself face to face speaking to some people in Kenya who are meant to be the beneficiaries of the Bon gun project and, in his own words, he gets schooled by them. So listening to this fascinating story. So just a bit of an update. Since the launch of this podcast, as I'm recording this, we just had over three hundred and fifty listeners and over the four hundred sixty streams across the last nine episodes as we speak, and so on. Behalf of you, the audience, podcast publishing is giving ninety days of education to support children with hearing impairment. So this is done true B and Jiwa and it goes to the charity in India, Courts Save the you in India, and in line with the mission of this podcast, these impact giving directly links to sustainable development goal number four, which is quality education, and go number ten, reducing inequality. So thank you very much for listening to this podcast and making a difference. So, without of further do this is my conversation with Karen. So, Karen, welcome to the show, and I've known Karen for some time now and we've actually been hang out in Bali for almost a month. At any it was end of two thousand and eighteen. So I knew current from the Geniusu and sort of Roger Hamilton's community. So, Karen, you are a change maker, social entrepreneur. You lead the tiny house movement. You're currently in Auckland. Am I right, Auckland, New Zealand? Yes, and yeah, so you you lead the tiny house movement and you're very passionate with changing the world and unleashing people's awesomeness. I think you got a amazing story and yours. You've obviously been a mentor of mine and I really appreciate the time that we had together. It was a really cool we should time on my journey because I was just starting out my podcasting business. For people who are new to what you're doing, could you share with us what's been your teatness a...

...change maker? How have you got started in why is it so important for us to beyond this journey to make a bigger impact? Yeah, thanks, Woonon, and thanks having me. I think like my whole journey and my whole thing about being a change maker riders as I have this belief that we're all born to do awesome. We're all born for a bigger reason, right, you know, and Roger Talks about us in the concept of flow. But but most people just end up stuck in the daily grind, they stuck working the nine hundred and twenty five that they fall into the absolute bullshit that is society today, where we basically have ze debt and slaved zombies working their asses off and jobs they probably hate in order to be able to afford cars and houses that they're never actually in. And for what right? And and so this whole idea is is that when they're living that life, that life of the debt and Slave Zombie, they're never actually fulfilling their bigger mission, their bigger purpose. And so for me it's like, well, actually, there are so many problems in the world that if we could just help these people create freedom, if we could help them, show them how they can escape that life and actually start living more purpose driven or or at least living their life on their own terms, then we can start solving some of these big challenges around the world, because we have the skills, we have for people, we have the technology, but just society today doesn't work. And so that's, for me, what I'm working on doing. I'm working on how we can help most people create freedom so that they can stop working to make a living and start doing meaning for work. Could you share to with the audience, you know, your journey starting out as a in real estate, because I think that's kind of crucier piece of the puzzle and you've obviously been very passionate about this whole real estate and property sector and you've actually wrote a book, in fact, the future property and you know, how did you get started and what was it that really interest you when you were starting out? So I was working, I used to be a chef, working on an oil ro gap off the northwest coast of Australia and I picked up a book on real estate and this thing and it was like, Oh my God, I can actually like get paid to travel with and so that was how it started off for me. So I went out there, I join ventured with some people in order to buy properties, to build a bit of a portfolio. But it was through that journey that I saw how many young people were really struggling to be able to buy property. And even now, Yo, we're in the midst of its absolutely insane housing boom. Properties that I bought for two hundred eighty thousand and now selling up in the seven hundreds, absolutely insane properties which, you know, two years ago we're selling for...

Eightyzero and now selling for like three hundred fifty four hundred. It just meant that doesn't make any sense. And a lot of that is just fueled by the way society views houses and the way that most people, I don't know about rest the world, but at least in New Zealand, most people create their wealth through their own home or through housing. Right. So none of it really made sense to me. So I started looking and I was going, well, what is the future of property actually going to be? How all these emerging trends and technology is going to impact the real estate industry and how can I be Britt one of the people that actually bring in this new way of living and and actually create a better, Fairer Society for all? I guess, and and and that's really how I got into the whole future of real estate side. And one of the biggest trends of most interesting things I've noticed it is that I was always taught house prices are going to follow jobs. If jobs increase, then house prices increase right. But the way we work is actually changing. The future of work is changing, right, and we've seen that especially this year in two thousand and twenty, where many people are forced to work from home. And if you can work from home, you can work from anywhere. And, as you point out, that's exactly what we were doing when we spent that month in Bali. Right. And so, if you can work from anywhere, where do you want to work from? Do you want to be paying ridiculous mortgages on houses and cities where you're sitting in that traffic to go to a job that you actually hate? Or would you if you can work from a computer? Would you rather work from somewhere like barley or work within your own country, but somewhere we're housing is a bit more affordable, or do you actually need a house full stop? And would you be a fulltime nomad? When I talk to people and and working through their goals of what they actually want to achieve, most people say they want to travel. Right, and this is something I've been doing for the last five years, being able to work from anywhere, travel, live wherever I want to, do everything from a laptop. And we now have this this entire globe that starting to realize they can do the same. So the question is, if the way we work is changed, how is the way we live going to change as well? And for me I want to realize see it actually focusing more on housing as a service, where you don't need to own the real estate, you don't need to have your own home, and Airbnb has really bought the Sin Right. I can go anywhere in the world, rent to AIRBNB for one day to mump six my I mean I've worked for an AIRBNB matachment. Come then, you know, we have people looking for six months to a year sometimes, and knowing that they just pay one fee, they don't have to get any but contracts of the name, they don't have to pay electricity bills and all that is really attractive to a lot of these people, right. And so that's really where we're heading. And so I'm saying, well, cool, if we're going... have this new lifestyle, then, and you could work from anywhere, wouldn't you want to work from live and work from epic lifestyle locations? And wouldn't you want to do it surrounded by amazing people who are actually living their best life, working on their business or, you know, creating global impacts as well? Awesome and you know, one of the things that you recently just shared was this your your experience on the Banjun trip to Kenya? Could you share with the audience why was it such an eye opener for you, because I know there was a there's a really amazing story behind it and I think it's so important for that to be that for people to hear that story. Yeah, yeah, so I've been part of the B G One Community for a while now and one hundred percent agree of this whole idea of your giving back and helping those who need the help. And so when I got the opportunity to go to Ken your and be part of a study to I jumped at the chance and there's a group of probably fifteen to twenty of us and we went round and we looked at the different organizations in the work they were doing there, and there were two things that really jumped out at me. The first was how much of an impact we can actually have with so little. You know, in the Western world things are expensive right, so for me to change anything back home is going to acquire a lot of money, but for me to make an impact in somewhere like Kenya, actually it's within my capability right. So that was the first thing I really noticed and that's what I love about the g one platform there is I can actually create change in people's lives for as little as one send. But the real, the real eye opener for me, I will thought I was going there, you know, to help them, but they actually helped me in ways I could have never imagined. And we were at new Canaan village, and the story behind this was for whatever reason, about one hundred people had become bud lost their homes. Whether it was war or drought, I can't quite remember, but the government gave them a small amount of money each to rehome themselves. That money probably wouldn't have bought anything by themselves. But what they did, as all the families came together, they found a super large piece of land and they actually settled it themselves, giving themselves like just the fifty square meter house side and throughout the edge houses were in different, different states of being built. But one thing that stood out is the way they all work together and the way they all pulled together and actually created success as a community. And they had started working with other communities now to mentor and help them in order to build well for to get prosperous and work together. And one of those communities, it was in one of the most drought stricken parts of...

Africa, had pretty much had nothing, you know. They struggled for water, they struggle for everything, but one thing it did have was bees. And so they would sell their honey for ten shillings for kg. And and and the new Knean village mentors went in and they're like well, actually, if you'll pulled your resources together, you could sell it to a larger company and that by for twenty shillings per kg. And I was like, you are so silly. You could go in, buy it all up for ten shillings per kg, sell it for twenty shillings per kilo and you would double your money. And and someone else has done all the hard work right, or you've done is by it up and take it to the distributor or whatever. And I like well, yeah, we could do that, but how are we as a community supposed to be prosperous when our neighbors the living in poverty? was like Damn car and you just got schooled. I think that that was one of those biggest takeaways. And you know, for me the wealth gap and helping people to be wealthy and prosperous is important. And Yeah, I see that. And the way we live. Housing is most people's biggest expenses, but prices just keep on increasing. It's becoming it's it's massively unaffordable. The cost of rent, the cost of ownership is just ridiculous and it's keeping people poor, and so we need to come up with new solutions on how people can live and until everyone has a has a sustainable housing solution, where as a country and where as a world cannot be prosperous. Amazing. That's such a such a interesting story and in the lesson that you take a week, you know one of the things you actually working on is is your tiny house and and your sort of converting houses into a house parts into well, you building some house parks, right. Could you, could you explain more about what a Tinese house is and what is it all about and why are you so excited with this whole movement? Yeah, so at tiny house, as it's actually a vehicle. It's imagine a caravan which is built like a house almost, but you can hook it onto the back of your truck or a car and you can tell it. We're wherever you want to go. But, you know, unlike a caravan, it's actually quite spacious. It's well built and it's got a full kitchen, full bathroom. I've actually got two loft bedrooms, one of them as my TV room where we cozy up and watch movies. And so because of that, because it's a vehicle, it doesn't actually need building consent or anything like that, right. So so you can tell it wherever you want, you can live wherever you want him. For me that's total freedom and they cost a fraction of that the price of a traditional house. And so this is where we actually tie... with with that goal of housing as a service, right, because if you can live anywhere and if you can tow your house behind you, I guess like a turtle or snow, right, you can. You can take your you can take your house with you. Then the big issue is where you actually go, where you've got that infrastructure and you've got the community of what you need in order to build your business, create those impacts and and to live from. And so what we're doing now is we're actually working to buy up caravan parks and RV parks and create the infrastructure so that it's not just designed for overnight tourists, but it's actually a place where people can go and stay as little or as long as they want. Um, they take their house with them and then they've got the infrastructure they need in order to be able to build their business or to work or, you know, at least earn money in some way. But they're also in amazing lifestyle locations, right. So it's outside of the city where you're actually, I will, live your life as well, where you can go for a surf, you can go get in back, get back to nature, you know, ideally somewhere near water. Maybe there's a lake or there's little little sail boats or just something right to reconnect you with your source, your spirit of Mother Nature and all of that to reinvigorate you so that you can you can actually do what you love, because that's one thing, that's it. It's cities are absolute soul destroying, aren't they? And and you know, we need to reconnect, we need to live more sustainably, and that's the way I see me making my impact through this whole tiny house movement. And the interesting thing is right these what we're designing is really good for those who love the van life or live an RV's or camp of bands and travel a lot, house buses, house tracks, but also tiny houses. And the interesting thing about all that is, you know, when I look into the future, they're all going to become the same thing anyway. They're all going to become self driving vehicles with some sort of structure on top that we can live out of. And so that's really are we're sitting ourselves up knowing that in the next five or so years, longer and other countries, we're going to be in a position that this is our reality, that you can go to sleep in one city, wake up and another city, have a completely new set of friends around you, but it doesn't matter where you are, you're going to have good and Frastructure, good Internet, the ability to work and a great community around you. I love the vision and I think it's absolutely true with self driving cars and tiny homes that, while trend, combining things. That's very exciting, you know. So at what's teach are you right now with with this hooting like? Are you looking for more people to get involved?...

Are you looking for investors? You know, could you share what what what you looking for and what you have on offer? Yeah, yeah, cool. So really we want to be building that community. That's the most important thing. People who want to be no medic or at least, you know, able to live and work from anywhere, love the idea of being able to just jump in the car and drive, you know, and and and we're also looking for parks, tiny house park as well campgrounds, caravan parks that side as well. So best, wally cly. Anyone who's interested hint to just just hit to go tiny dot co and register very interest. Awesome, and I've seen on youtube video of your current tiny house that you're in right now. It's very exciting. Yeah, those so any last advice for someone who's listening who wants to create a bigger impact and in seat of take their yeah, sort of business and entrepreneurship to the next level? I actually yesterday, just yesterday, I I heard, I was sort of told what it's all about, right, and most people don't focus on a big enough problem. You know, when we think about our businesses, we don't focus on a big enough problem. And so my question or my challenge to anyone wanting to make a bigger impact is, what is the problem? You were actually solving. And how many people is that going to impact? When I talk about the way we live, you know that's that's a that's talking about billions of people, right, because we all live the same way. If I was just trying to overcome the problem of how can five people live together in a tiny house on a piece of land, that would that would only have an impact on five people. But the minute you start asking a bigger question and you'll not notice. When I went to my problem, it wasn't actually about tiny house parks or anything. It was the way we live is unsustainable and it's forcing too many people to not be able to afford to live. So, yeah, I love yeah, I like that because it's it really is. I mean it's not an easy question to us right. It's to really expand our vision and and to solve a bigger problem, and I like that you shared that and I'm so glad I ask you that question, that it's something you can come up with overnight. I mean, I've been working on this for years actually. You know, every time where it's like what is the problem I'm trying to solve, and it be like Blah, blah, blah, and you'd sit with it and your run with it and I'd do a few projects whatever they like. No, you know, like I said, do I want to end homelessness? And it was like, well, I'm passionate, I don't like having people living on the streets, but you know, is that what I really care about? And like, months later be like no, that's not what I care about, and it is. It's just for whole concept of the way the housing system work,... least today, right, the way the housing system works, the way we live, and and it just not working. It does not work for a lot of people. Awesome. We're going to end this now. So for anyone who is listening here who wants to join the your movement, your freedom, freedom collective, you're you know, you're looking to build a committee. Anyone who's interesting in tiny house, you know, interested instead of having more freedom in their life, true real estate. Definitely reach out to Kur and Goss. Go tiny dotcode. That's your website. Go time, NCOLM. Awesome, cool. Thank you very much, Karen to his when. So, what do you think of their conversation with Karen? Let me know in our social media comment. What has been your biggest takeaway from this episode. If you've been inspired and learned a thing or two, please drop us a five star rating and review on Apple podcasts, and if you can think of someone who might benefit from listening to this episode, please do share it with them so that we can grow this podcast. In the next episode I'll be speaking to Dan Watson of safety net technologies and he's going to be talking about his number one tip for impact entrepreneurs who are growing a technology business. And he's got a fascinating story and he has been doing this for almost ten years and through his experience he has been through rounds of grundfunding and crowdfunding and all sorts of investor pictures to take his business from an academic research into prototyping and scaling it while trying to address a massive social and environmental issue in the fishing industry. So tuned in for that episode. As this is the final episode of Two Thousand and twenty, I wish you a happy new year and I'll see you in two thousand and twenty one for a year of more prosperity, abundance and bigger impact. My name is Windtan. Thank you for listening.

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